Mid-day on a Sunday on the Green.
Location; Chorlton
Picture; That other White House, 2022, from the collection of Andrew Simpson
Mid-day on a Sunday on the Green.
Picture; That other White House, 2022, from the collection of Andrew Simpson
Now there will be many who are better placed than me to write about Bob Potts.
Bob with his Reminiscences of a Flixton Boyhood |
Bob was one of those generous historians, who was most happy when he could offer up pictures and information from his vast collection of material.
Added to which he was equally keen to proffer advice and the occasional correction which I always accepted from a man whose local historical knowledge was boundless.
So, when I was writing a book on Manchester and the Great War, Bob provided me with some fine picture postcards of Red Cross nurses, and even more generously lent me his records relating to the history of Manchester pubs.
These pub records consisted of the dates when the pubs were first granted a license, included the names of breweries as well as the date when the houses closed.
Bob's pub book on the pubs of Hulme and Chorlton-on-Medlock |
Anyone who has trawled such documents will know that mix of excitement and tedium, as the day rolls on broken by the odd coffee break, in lonely seclusion punctuated by some fascinating discoveries.
Bob sharing happily his knowledge |
These records were invaluable to me, and of course were the basis for three books he wrote on Manchester pubs, written in the early 1980s and published by Neil Richardson.
But his historical interests and writing extended way beyond public houses.
According to Michael Billington, who was his friend and co author he “started writing in 1970 when he wrote an article about the Roman road from Manchester to Ribchester for The Ribchester Archaeology Group’s magazine” and going on to write for other publications about his passion for digging up old Victorian and Edwardian bottles which had been discarded in ash pits.**
This in turn led to that interest in pub history and marked him out as a historian rather than just a collector.
Bob in his 20s |
He had been born in Flixton in 1936 but spent most of his life in Chorlton-cum-Hardy, where along with his wife Joyce he raised a family of two sons and two daughters and was blessed with two grandchildren.
During the time I knew him, he was still working, and often would divert from his delivery rounds to drop off some “interesting thing” from his collection, and the presence of Bob on the doorstep, bicycle clips in hand often on a Sunday morning was always a welcome surprise.
The visit was never a short one as Bob described the object in detail, offered up a context to the piece and then slid off on several fascinating anecdotes, before suddenly closing the conversation and disappearing on his bike.
And that more than anything is how I will remember him …… a historian who was keen to share his knowledge and passion.
Sadly Bob died in February 2021, just before the publication of the book he co wrote with Michael Billlington.Pictures; Bob, courtesy of Michael Billington
* The Old Pubs of Hulme 1983, The Old Pubs of Chorlton On Medlock, 1984, The Old Pubs of Rochdale Road, 1985, & Reminiscences of a Flixton Boyhood, 1986, are available from Neil and Sue Richardson publishers, 01204 578138, wattywalton@btconnect.com
**Urmston, Flixton and Davyhulme, A Collection of Antiques and Curios, Michael BIllington and Bob Potts, Epona Publishing, 2021, www.eponarerecords.com and is also available from Urmston Book shop, https://www.urmston-bookshop.co.uk/ 0161 747 7442
The story of one house in Lausanne Road over a century and a half, and of one family who lived there in the 1950s.*
Our house and the one the Pott's lived in, 2017 |
Some I admit are now shadowy figures, whose names I had completely forgotten until recently, while others like those who lived in the police flats do occasionally pop back into my memory.
Of all of them it is the Potts family who lived next door who still invade my thoughts from time to time, and that is mainly because three of the children were just a few years younger than me, and in those long hot summers which seemed to stretch on for ever we played together.
They were triplets and if I have got this right were called Susan, Brian, and Robert. There was an older sister, Helen who already was too old to mix with us, although I guess she will have not been more than five years older than me.
I have a few pictures of us together and can remember that they kept chickens and finally moved out to run The Earl of Derby on Dennett’s Road sometime in the late 1950s.
And then a couple of days ago someone posted on social media a picture of the triplets from the Associated Newspapers with the caption, “Circa 1952: Four-year-old Potts Triplets - Robert Susan And Brian - receiving their birthday mail from the postman at their Peckham London home”.**
Me and two of the triplets circa mid 1950s |
At first this was only to establish that the date was correct which seemed a little too early, given that I had been born three years earlier, and in 1952 I would only have been three.
So far, I haven’t been able to find a record of when they were born, but the search did lead me to their mum and dad who were married in 1934 in Lewisham. For a while they lived in Lewisham before settling in Orpington sometime around 1939.
By 1947 they were in Mr. Pott’s old family home on Lausanne Road where he had lived in the early 1930s.
This I now know because he and then later his wife Ellen appear on the Electoral Registers which were compiled every year which allowed me to track them around southeast London.
Added to this there is the 1939 Register which was a mini census, carried out at the beginning of the Second World War. It remains an invaluable document given that the 1931 census was destroyed and the first post-war one cannot be accessed for another 30 years.
Along with information on dates of birth and occupations it also offers up information on the voluntary activities of people, including their participation in Civil Defence roles.
Mr Pott’s gave his occupation as a “Bus Driver for London Transport”, and along with Ellen and Ellen’s sister three others are registered. But these three have been redacted which I suspect means that they were children who might still have been alive when the Register first went live earlier this century.
One of these may have been Margaret Potts who shows up on the 1957 electoral register and may have been one of their older children. I vaguely remember her in their kitchen from sometime in the mid 1950s.
Me and Helen, circa 1953 |
But the electoral registers also throws light on the dire housing conditions in the immediate post way years. The houses on Lausanne Road were big and many appear to have had their share of lodgers.
Our house did, with at least two couples sharing the property at certain periods. Likewise number 28 also had what appear to be non-family members, and while this isn’t the case with the Pott’s house I assume that is because of their larger family.
And that is it ….. I would like to have included the photograph which set me off on the journey but alas I don’t hold the copyright.
Leaving me just one slight niggle, which is that the photograph doesn't quite match with those houses on Lausanne Road, ..... a mystery which someone will offer an explanation
Location; Peckham
Pictures; me, the Pott’s children circa 1950s and our house on Lausanne Road, 2017 from the collection of Andrew Simpson
*The story of one house in Lausanne Road http://chorltonhistory.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/The%20story%20of%20one%20house%20in%20Lausanne%20Road
**I grew up in Peckham, https://www.facebook.com/groups/49819382463
Mid-day on a Sunday on Beech Road, waiting for a customer.*
Picture; Lonely tables, 2022, from the collection of Andrew Simpson
* I should just point out that this is the very popular San Juan on Beech Road just before the restaurant opened, and a little latter in the day all the tables wee full with hungry customers waiting for the chance to enjoy the excellent food.
Crossing the Alps |
On route for Asos |
Asos |
The old railway bridge with the canal beyond, 2018 |
The Duke's Canal, 1854 |
Now this is a programme I will be listening to today.
Obliterated from the map. The Invention of...Poland Episode 1 of 3, BBC Radio 4.*
Church of the Holy Cross in Warsaw, 1778 |
It's a tale of terrifying power politics, when an ancient European kingdom was sliced up like a cake. Beginning in Krakow, they travel by train and tiny bus in an arc around the south east to the Renaissance city of Zamosc, near the border with Ukraine.
With contributions from Norman Davies, Adam Zamoyski, Professor Natalia Nowakowska, Bartek Ziobro of Krakow Explorers and Olesya Khromeychuk of the Ukrainian Institute in London.
This is the latest in the How to Invent a Country podcast series which has previously travelled to Germany, the USA, Scandinavia and Brazil.Presenter Misha Glenny is a former BBC Central European correspondent and the author of McMafia.Official Coat of Arms of Poland
Produced for BBC Audio in Bristol by Miles Warde"
And more Polish stories by following the link.
Pictures; Church of the Holy Cross in Warsaw, 1778,Bernardo Bellotto, and Polish - Lithuanian Commonwealth at its greatest extent in years 1619 - 1621, 2018, Praca własna na podstawie, https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Poland-Lithuania_1714.svg author Tonhar, licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported license and official Coat of Arms of Poland
* Obliterated from the map. The Invention of...Poland Episode 1 of 3, https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0015v82
**Poland, https://chorltonhistory.blogspot.com/search/label/Poland
Street furniture takes many forms ........... two from Beech Road, yesterday.
Pictures; Left on Beech Road ...... street furniture, 2022 from the collection of Andrew Simpson
Location; Manchester
Pictures; a pair, 2022, from the collection of Andrew Simpson
So, the title pretty much has the lot, and will stir memories of happy meals and a controversy.
The Post Box Cafe, 2014 |
It stands on the site of residential properties which had been destroyed in the Manchester Blitz, and is located close to our main Post Office which had been damaged during the same attack.
It was and still is an unprepossessing building which can best be described as a box.
But in 2013 part of it was converted into the Post Box Café which attracted a lot of customers, as well as supporters, hosted some exciting events both outside and inside, and was the venue for some of my history talks.
One of the History Talks, 2014 |
That box, 2018 |
It presence generated a lot of debate, with few if any supporters.
And despite an instruction to take it down it lingered on for quite a while.
And now we have gone full circle with a new eating place, which goes under the name of “The Post Box Café & Shawarma”.
The rest as they say is history. The Facebook site for the original Post Box Café still exists and all my stories about the old and new Chorlton Post Office can be read by following the link.*
The Post Box Café & Shawarma”, 2022 |
Pictures; “The Post Box Café & Shawarma”, 2022 from the collection of Andrew Simpson, the box, 2018, courtesy of Andy Robertson, and Peter Topping’s painting of the Post Office and the Chorlton Post Box Café, 2014
Paintings; © 2014 Peter Topping, Paintings from Pictures, www.paintingsfrompictures.co.uk
*Chorlton Post Office, https://chorltonhistory.blogspot.com/search/label/Chorlton%20Post%20Office
The Spann family whose ghost sign still adorns this building were part of Didsbury’s history from the early part of the last century.*
The Didsbury ghost sign, 2022 |
By the late 1920s the business was listed as specialising in “House Furnishings” and no doubt Mr. Spann made some of the products sold in the shop assisted by his wife Laura who described her occupation as a “Curtain Specialist”.
All of which was proudly advertised on the gable end of the building, which originally read “TEL, 234 DIDSBURY, SPANN'S, BLINDS, REMOVING, CARPET LINOLEUM & BEDDING WAREHOUSE”.
Added to this they also owned property in the area which they rented out.
So, they were a notable Didsbury family who are also remembered in other ways.
"BLINDS, REMOVING, CARPET LINOLEUM & BEDDING WAREHOUSE” 2022 |
The building was owned by the Simon family and was turned over to the Red Cross as an auxiliary hospital for wounded soldiers. **
The work of the Red Cross volunteers was varied as well as vital, and while some were nurses, others worked in the kitchens, performed clerical and cleaning duties, and many also raised donations across the community providing extra comforts for the recovering servicemen.
And in the case of Mrs. Spann we also know that in the September of 1914 she was one of the “Didsbury Ladies” raising money for the Relief Funds.
The Didsbury Ladies, 1914 |
The photo shows Mrs. Braithwaite, Mrs. Spann, Mrs. McWilliam, and Mrs. W. Merrill, with their organ”, outside Didsbury Railway Station.
A National Relief Fund had been launched a month earlier and within a week had received a £1 million in donations, which by the end of the war would total over £7 million.
Here in Manchester just a week after the launch contributions amounted to £7,854 ranging from Rylands and Sons Ltd who had given £5000 down to Mr. Thomas Parker who donated £10.***
These were matched by sums coming from factories and other workplaces, leading the secretary of the Manchester Relief Fund to record his thanks to the workers in Didsbury, West Didsbury and Withington for their kindness in assisting in raising locally the “magnificent sum” of £162 2s. 5d.****
Lawnhurst, 2022 |
Another son was a respected academic who worked first at Manchester University, and later in the USA before settling in Australia.
And at 81, Laura Spann sailed first class to Australia in the October of 1957.
She had recently become a widow and it would seem she chose to make Australia her home, where she lived until her death in 1960.
In the next few decades her children had settled outside the city, and now I doubt there is any permanent record in Didsbury of the family’s life here and their contribution to the community other than the ghost sign.
So, it is perhaps fitting that the Didsbury Civic Society has been active in the preservation of the sign.
Location; Didsbury
Pictures; Manchester Courier, September 1914, courtesy of Sally Dervan, the ghost sign, 2022, and Lawnhurst, 2022 from the collection of Andrew Simpson
*Ghost signs are the names of companies or products most of which no longer exist. In a simpler age they were painted or picked out in coloured brick on the sides of buildings and date back well into the past.
**100 Halls Around Manchester Part 69: Lawnhurst, Didsbury, https://100hallsaroundmanchester.wordpress.com/2021/10/22/100-halls-around-manchester-part-69-lawnhurst-didsbury/
*** Manchester Donations, Manchester Guardian, August 13, 1914
**** Mr. H H Bowden, Correspondence, Manchester Guardian, October 8, 1914
Research on the family, and their business by Carol Wilkinson
Enough said.
Location; WoolwichPicture; the ferry, Woolwich, 2012, from the collection of Andrew Simpson
It is a compelling thought and is the stuff that breaks orthodox historical accounts of the Romans, Manchester, and the pizza.
The Emperor Augustus …on the Via Fori Imperiali |
Julius Caesar’s two explorative adventures across the Channel got no further than Kent, and while we know the Romans cooked flat bread, the combination of a dough smeared with tomato sauce had to wait till the tomato was brought back from the Americas in the 16th century.
Likewise, my picture of the Emperor Augustus is but a replica, and while some confuse Julius Caesar’s power grab as the start of the Imperial system of government it wasn’t. He was a dictator, and it would be his nephew Octavian who set the Principate up in 27 BC.
This we know because we can follow the historical sources, and as the years roll by more are revealed on every aspect of the past.
And these are the tools of the historian ….. not gossip, not guesses or imaginative speculation, but the words of past historians, along with all sorts of documents, diaries, and accounts which, and this is the important bit can be cross checked against other evidence as well as the archaeological record.
There will always be an element of doubt given that much has been lost, but enough remains to piece together a story, whether it be Caesar’s “day out” to Britain, the real Roman invasion in 43 AD, or the cultivation of the tomato by the peoples of Central and South America.
Of course, it is always be up to those of us who write the stuff to publish those sources, with links to where everyone else can read them, otherwise we are no more than purveyors of fantasies.
And today the internet offers a rich body of material which until relatively recently was only available to scholars in the know.
Many original works have sat for decades on dusty shelves in University libraries across the world, but can now be read as more and more of them are digitalized along with census records, wills, probates, and even the humble electoral register.
Neapolitan pizza, Varese, 2020 |
Just a decade ago the same search was but the price of a subscription to a genealogical platform and a few hours at the computer.
The result can sometimes be quite surprising and alter what we thought about our family and by extension what ever piece of historical research is being undertaken.
All of which means history never sits still. So, our knowledge will change with new discoveries and with it come new interpretations, making the study of the past messy but also very exciting.
It is after all a bit of a detective story and just like a detective we should never just accept what we are offered, but always question it, ask for verification and match it against what we already know.
Pictures; Emperor Augustus, Rome, 2008, and a Neapolitan pizza, 2020, from the collection of Andrew Simpson
It was the editor Maxwell Scott, in John Ford’s film, the Man Who Shot Liberty Valance who said “This is the West, sir. When the legend becomes fact, print the legend."*
Which would forever confirm the popular belief that it had been Senator Ranse Stoddard who as a young attorney had shot the very unpleasant gang leader, Liberty Valance, when in reality it had been Tom Doniphon.Of course John Ford and countless other directors had already been portraying the “Wild West” as something it wasn’t for decades long before the 1962 film.
And in doing so they were only building on cheap novels and newspaper accounts which thrilled the readership of the eastern side of the USA with stories of Cowboys, Indians and the US Cavalry.
Today of course we know that the Indians were the Native Peoples, that amongst the cowboys there were plenty of ethnic groups from former slaves, to ex Chinese railway workers and failed Swedish farmers, and that some at least of the men who made up the US Cavalry were guilty of genocide.
Along with the one that Castlefield with its elaborate viaducts and waterways was in fact an early attempt by the City Fathers in the late 19th century to create a tourist attraction to rival Venice.
Location; Manchester
Pictures; the Roman wall, 2002, and a scene of Castlefield, 2006, from the collection of Andrew Simpson
*“This is the West, sir. When the legend becomes fact, print the legend." Maxwell Scott, The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
I doubt there is any one left who attended the old church school on the green.
After it closed, it served the community as a public place,
hosted the VE Day celebrations, was home to the Penny Savings Bank and for a
while was a commercial property until finally being converted into residential
apartments.
Location; Chorlton
Picture; Chorlton shapes, 2022, from the collection of
Andrew Simpson
Now I like a mystery as much as any devout fan of Sherlock Holmes, even more so when it comes in the form of a pile of discarded rubbish with a nod to recycling and a clue.
Clearly the person who left the rubbish had a keen sense of humour, given that one bag carried that message to “Reduce Refuse Recycle” which they had chosen to do by leaving a selection of their household usage for someone else to sift through.
Added to which they had cunningly left a clue in the form of some letter headed mail.
I await someone far clever than me to make sense of the piece of paper and perhaps deduce who had left the clue.And draw conclusions about the dietary habits from the assorted water bottles, soft drink tins and the intriguing Bacofoile bag.
It may even kick start a discussion on the effort that must have gone on to transport the collection of rubbish bags, choose a location and then find a time when no one was around.
And to think that Billy Bin Day is on a Wednesday.
And yes historically Chorlton has always had litter louts which can be a attested by the amount of thrown away paper evident in pictures from our streets and parks at the beginning of the last century.Of course Mrs Trellis of St Clements Road will object claiming this is a trivial post when weighed against what is going on in the Ukraine, and it is.
Location; Chorlton
Picture; the recycling lout, 2022, from the collection of Andrew Simpson