Showing posts with label Peckham cinemas. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Peckham cinemas. Show all posts

Monday, 4 March 2024

Walking down Kender Street looking for the cocoa works and finding a lost cinema

It will be something well over half a century since I last walked down Kender Street and even now it’s the smell of cocoa which is the first thing that comes to mind.

Kender Street, 1872
We lived at number 14 for about a year and a bit back in 1950 into ‘51 and for most of that decade and into the next we regularly  went back to visit one of mum’s friends.

And Kender Street was also one of those alternate routes from Lausanne Road up to the public library on New Cross Road, the wool shop and mum’s other favourite haunt the private lending library.

Now I went looking for all those places recently and of course the passage of fifty five years has not been kind to my child hood memories.  The cocoa works along with number 14 and a big chunk of the street have gone as have the library, the wool shop and much else.

And so comprehensive has the change been that I did begin to question just how much I remembered.

Undaunted I turned to a set of historical maps running from 1872 till 1954.

Most are online courtesy of Southwark Council* and they offer a pretty neat picture of the area over 80 or so years.

Now I couldn’t confirm the cocoa plant but I was struck by the number of industrial units ranging from a print works, and iron works to a cooperage and engineering plant.  Most were developed in the years after 1872 and plenty of them were still there around Kender Street and Pomeroy Street in the early 1950s.

Of course having spent years living in east Manchester which retained its heavy industry until the 1980s and only saw the colliery close in 1968 I shouldn’t have been surprised.

What I did find fascinating was the lost cinema on Queens Road which I only discovered from one of those old maps.**

This was the Ideal Cinema House which stood between Kender Street and Pomeroy Street.

It had opened in 1914 as the Queens’ Cinema House, changed its name a year later to the Queens’s Road Cinema and in 1916 was renamed again the Ideal Kinema and when it was bought by Naborhood Theatres Ltd around 1935 becoming the  Narborhood Cinema.

And there in its 790 seat theatre audiences could have thrilled to Tom Mix, Charlie Chaplin and enthralled at the first talkies.

Alas it’s time as the Narborhood were numbered.  It was destroyed by German bombs in 1940 and the remains demolished the following year which I suspect was why I knew nothing of its existence.

All of which just points to that simple observation that if you want to revisit your childhood, best do it with some maps, and the odd history book.

Of course there may be someone who has a picture of the old cinema and even of the cocoa plant, and may be even the Eno’s Fruit Salt Works on Pomeroy Street whose wall also backed on to the gaden of nu 14 Kender Street.

Now that would be something.

And to confirm that memory, Margaret Nash commented, "That brings back memories. My two brothers used to work at the cooper age in Pomeroy Street, it was called Bennet's and I think made barrels.  As kids we used to hang around the cocoa factory until someone came out and gave us some cocoa which we mixed with some sugar and made a dip".

Now I winder why I didn't think of that!

Picture; Kender Street !872, from the OS for London 1872, courtesy of Digital Archives Association, http://www.digitalarchives.co.uk/ 

* Southwark Historical mapping
http://maps.southwark.gov.uk/connect/southwark.jsp?mapcfg=Historical_Selection&search=26%20LAUSANNE%20ROAD%20SE15%202HU


**Naborhood Cinema, 277-281 Queen's Road, Cinema Treasures, http://cinematreasures.org/theaters/31141




Wednesday, 16 December 2015

No babes in arms just bug sprays and exciting films ....................... Lydia remembers the Ideal cinema on Queens Road

Now I am back with the Ideal Cinema which stood on Queens Road midway between Pomeroy Street and Kender Street.

The Ideal Cinema 1914-1940
It had opened in 1914 as the Queens’ Cinema House, changed its name a year later to the Queens’s Road Cinema and in 1916 was renamed again as the Ideal Kinema.

Then around 1935 it was bought by Naborhood Theatres Ltd around 1935 and became the  Narborhood Cinema.

And there in its 790 seat theatre audiences could have thrilled to Tom Mix, Charlie Chaplin and been enthralled at the first talkies.

Alas it’s time as the Narborhood were numbered.  It was destroyed by German bombs in 1940 and the remains demolished the following year which I suspect was why I knew nothing of its.

That said there are people who remember attending the place in the 1930s.

One of these is Lydia Bush who told me that "the Ideal Cinema was on the main road, on the left side going towards New Cross, with the pub was on the corner.


Tom Mix, 1925
It was a small cinema with one level, no balcony, I remember on the other side was a small barbers.

I think it may have been privately owned, and based on an American style.

I went to one in the States just like the Ideal , and that really brought back memories.

It changed the film on Thursday, but in those days cinemas didn't open on Sunday.

I remember a sign on the small box office which said 'No babes in arms!'

They came round with a spray occasionally, I used to think it was perfume!

But it was probably bug spray!

I saw many films there, mum was a film fan, I think she must have kept it going.

Hated the walk home though.”

Now that bug spray was not peculiar to the Ideal, and talking to people across the country they not only remembered the practise but singled out certain picture houses as “flea pits” and “bug havens” where you went at your peril.

And likewise many of them continued to refer to the cinema of their choice with names that long ago had been changed .

So for Lydia our cinema will always be the Ideal and in that she was not alone, because maps of the 1930s and 40s still referred to it by its pre 1935 name.  In fact the updated map of the area in 1953 continued to show the cinema which had long ago shown its last film and seen its last bug spray.

So there you have it ............ in the space of a few days the Ideal has offered up more of its story.

All we need now is a picture.

Pictures; the Ideal cinema and Queens Road, 1953 from historical map extract courtesy of Southwark Council at Historical map extract courtesy of Southwark Council at http://maps.southwark.gov.uk/connect/southwark.jsp mapcfg=Historical_Selection&style=historical&banner=historical with mapping provided by Landmark Information Group,  Tom Mix, May 21 1925, Wikipedia Commons, this work has been released into the public domain by its author, Herbert A. French, who grants anyone the right to use this work for any purpose, without any conditions, unless such conditions are required by law.

This story first appeared in 2015

Saturday, 27 June 2015

The story of one house in Lausanne Road number 16 ........ Saturday Morning Pictures at the ABC Regal and Gaumont

The story of one house in Peckham over a century and a half, and of one family who lived there in the 1950s.*

Saturday Morning Badge 
You never quite forget that mix of noise and anticipation which was Saturday Morning Pictures.

It started when the manager asked if everyone was happy, continued into the competitions and lasted through most of the morning.

It is easy to over romanticise what was just another way the cinema chain could create more revenue while introducing a young audience to the magic of the big screen.

And once you were hooked you were hooked for life.  The cycle might begin with Saturday Morning

Pictures but quickly moved on to the “date” on the back row and in the fullness of time to visits with your children to Disney and of course to Saturday mornings all over again this time dropping off and collecting a new generation of Saturday children.

But you can also be over cynical even given that what you saw was pretty dire.

I can’t say I ever enjoyed those stories of daring do by young children or the equally improbable tales of faithful dogs and intelligent dolphins saving the day.

The Thunder Guard, from the Phantom Empire, 1935
I do remember a series which mixed the theme of Ancient Rome, alien invaders and a particularly nasty dictator.

On reflection it was probably shot on a back lot using B actors and involved lots of oddly dressed men riding on horseback across dusty plains.

You knew it was cheap because the plot didn’t follow a logical path and events often passed from bright daylight to late afternoon and back again in the course of one horse race.

All that said they were fun.

There were the cartoons and films, along with live events ranging from talent competitions and fancy dress to the appearance of a well known celebrity and it was always someone’s birthday which was met with a loud shout.

I am not sure whether it would still work today but from the 1940s into the 60s they were a way of life for many children with that added advantage that it freed up time for the adults.

In the 1950’s the average weekly attendance at  children’s cinema matinees was over 1,016,000 with 1735 cinemas holding cinema matinees for children.

The ABC chain began a special club in the 1940s for their ABC Minors complete with badge and song and birthday cards.

We on the other hand went to the Gaumont which I am sure also had a song a badge and much more, the trouble is I just don’t remember.

ABC Minors happy Birthday
Later when I was that tad bit older for reasons I can’t explain I ended up at the ABC Regal on the Old Kent Road sandwiched between Leo Street and Gervase Street.**

It had opened in 1937 as The Regal and was the largest of ABC’s London surburban cinemas, but was smaller than the Astoria nearby.

And it was there that I saw those epic sword and sandal films which seemed to always feature Steve Reeves with a clutch load of feeble plots but full of action and dignified young woman in classical dress.

Of course the cinema has gone as has the Astoria, and the Gaumont.  The first was the Astoria which closed in 1968 followed by the ABC and the Gaumont.

By then my Saturday Morning Cinema days were over.  But within a few years I was back this time as a dad fulfilling that cycle of the cinema goer but in the meantime the grand palaces of make believe had given over to the functional but ugly multi complex and somewhere along the way a little of the old magic was lost.

And for those who want to judge for themselves, just follow the link to what you could have enjoyed.***

Pictures, ABC Minors Badge, ABC Minors children’s cinema postcard Happy Birthday, 1948, BD084660, University of Essex, http://collections.ex.ac.uk/repository/handle/10472/3222?show=full and Cinema Treasures, http://cinematreasures.org/video/abc-minors-matinee

*The story of one house in Lausanne Road, http://chorltonhistory.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/The%20story%20of%20one%20house%20in%20Lausanne%20Road

**ABC Old Kent Road, Cinema Treasures, http://cinematreasures.org/theaters/31124#

*** Cinema Treasures, http://cinematreasures.org/video/abc-minors-matinee