Monday, 9 July 2018

Who guards Lithermans Bridge?

Now I am fairly confident I am looking at a pillbox, the sort that was constructed in the early years of the last war when the threat of an invasion was a real possibility.

It must have been a huge civil engineering undertaking because they were everywhere, guarding not only our sea defences but inland at crossroads, bridges, and other strategic locations.

This one guards Lithermans Bridge, near Turton.

There will be people out there, who can not only identify the type of pillbox, but date it by some feature unknown to most of us and maybe even offer up this one’s history.

None of which I can compete with.  It was taken by Peter Topping last week and I like the peaceful setting which contrasts with the awful and violent scene which would have been enacted if the pillbox had ever been used.

I came across a few on holiday down on the beach one year.

One was still intact but the other had shifted and stood at a crazy angle with the entrance in the air.

So that is it, until someone comes up with more.

Location near Turton

Picture; courtesy of Peter Topping, 2018

Out in Warrington on a day in July .......... a set of golden gates

Now if ever I wanted a reminder of how I should get out more it was yesterday.

We had taken the train to Warrington to the railway station Bank Quay, and I have to say I was just a bit apprehensive, given that hard by the station was a huge plant for Unilver, which consisted of tall storage tanks and lots of pipes.

But outside directly opposite was the Patten Arms Hotel and signs for the museum.

And in the course of the next ten minutes I stumbled over some fine buildings including the Town Hall and its gilded gates.

Location; Warrington










Pictures; the Town Hall Warrington and its golden gates, 2016, from the collection of Andrew Simpson

Sunday, 8 July 2018

Walking the meadows in 1959

From seven years ago  and still good.

There are many ways of telling stories of the past. One that has intrigued me was Mrs Broady’s Journal.

She was a botanist and recorded what she saw on the meadows in the late 1950s.

Now I am not really into botany but my pal David Bishop has carefully reproduced the entries which can be viewed on on his blog at and they make fascinating reading.

 Mrs Broady was walking this stretch of land when it was possibly at its lowest point.

For centuries it had been used as pasture and meadow land by our farmers, and today it is an area rich in plants and wild life. But at the close of the 19th century some of the land had been taken over for a sewage works and later in the 20th century parts were tipped on and others dug up to construct the nearby motorway.
Picture; the meadows near the site of Hardy lane Farm, 2011,  from the collection of Andrew Simpson


*http://friendsofchorltonmeadows.blogspot.com/search/label/History

Now you can go looking for a water trough and five turn up on the same day

My water trough was at the top of St Mary’s Road where it joined Evelina Road.

I remember it from the 1950s and so did Linda and Joan and in the case of Joan she told me that  “you have just given me a memory jolt... I can recall my mum telling me off for trying to get into that trough..... it was all green and slimy inside !!”

I vaguely remember others and said I would set myself the task of looking for them and it is a search which has already been helped by Ros, Linda, Sue, Sharon and Helen who all came up with fresh sites.

So now I know of the one on the Old Kent Road where it joined New Cross Road, the two at the top of Deptford Road, the one at Vassel Road and a fifth outside the Kentish Drovers on Commercial Road where Sue’s mum fell in “and swallowed her false tooth celebrating on VJ night. What a night that must have been” and finally one on Southhampton Way.

There will be others, after all there were lots of horses and other livestock on our streets and all needed watering.

So the project has just started.

I am hoping for more stories and pictures.  Pat has promised one of the tough at Vassel Road.

So as they say watch this space.

Thanks to Linda Barnes,Helen Middleton, Sue England, Joan Griffiths Sharon Wood, and Pat Ross.

Picture. down on Bexley Road 2014, courtesy of Jean Gammons

Another day in Warrington ................. nu 3 finding ath best place to photograph the Barley Mow back in 2016

Now the day, two years ago, we went to Warrington we were promised what would be the best day for catching the sun.

And that was pretty much the case although there were great chucks of the day when the clouds did their best to both hide the sun and threaten rain.

But there was enough sun, the day was warm and the result was more pictures of Warrington a place I have only been to once before.

Now with no idead where I was going I came across the Barley Mow which I am told is a "historic 15th century half-timbered building in centre of modern shopping development. Grade 2 Plus listing status.*




All of which is interesting but didn't help me get a good picture.

*WHAT?UB, https://whatpub.com/pubs/CNC/268/barley-mow-warrington

Location; Warrington

Picture;The Barley Mow, 2016, from the collection of Andrew Simpson

Saturday, 7 July 2018

Drinking Troughs I have known

The drinking trough was one of those bits of street furniture I took for granted.

A water trough I knew .... St Mary's Road, date unknown
Thinking back they were all over the place and given the number of horses in use until the middle of the 20th century that is no surprise.

But they owed their origins as much to cattle as horses.

In the middle of the 19th century  cattle along with other livestock were still being walked into our city centres and while the days of bring them in from the country were over they were still being walked from main railway stations to dairies and abattoirs.

As late as the 1950s my old friend Oliver Bailey had the job of transporting pigs from our local station to his farm through the streets of Chorlton-cum-Hardy and the family still kept a herd of cattle on a patch of land in the heart of the township.

So the water trough during the years I grew up in Lausanne Road was still in use although by then its use was pretty much limited to offering water to the horses pulling the milk floats and the rag and bone man’s cart.

An on Bexley Road a water trough with flowers
And if I think hard enough the one on the corner of St Mary’s Road and Evelina Road was more often dry and a place for us lads to sit in and be silly getting our clothes dusty and a tad grimy from the accumulated muck which was a mix of dried leaves, the odd discarded crisp paper and street grit.

Some troughs can still be found like the one in Eltham, others were taken over as flower beds before finding their way into Corporation Yards and finally broken up as rubble.

Now I have decided to begin looking for them and plotting their presence around the area where I grew up.
And to help me I have fallen back on an excellent set of historical maps of Southwark.*

The trough on St Mary's Road, 1953
They cover the period from 1896-1953 and offer up a fascinating resource more so as the later ones cover my own time in Lausanne Road.

Added to which there is the facility to compare them with modern street maps and switch to contemporary street scenes.

From which I know that my water trough at the top of St Mary’s Road has long gone.
And as you would expect the story behind the maps is a tale in itself.
They were found in a cupboard by Mr Carter in the council offices who decided to have them digitized and made available on line.

That Peckham water trough again
They represent an invaluable resource for any one engaged in family research or like me have been drawn back to write about the place I grew up.

All too often my memory is hazy to the point where I wonder whether they actually happened.
So trying to track where my old friend Jimmy lived proved almost impossible.

I knew it was a street off Queen’s Road between Mona and the fire station.  Sadly google street maps offered no help but there on the 1953 map was the place and by using the electoral roll I found him and his house all over again.

And the same 1953 map offered up the corner of St Mary’s Road with Evelina Road that water  trough which was good because despite Adrian’s picture I had come to doubt that I had ever sat there.

All I have to do is find the rest.

Tomorrow, Ghost signs on Evelina Road .............. along with an old telephone kiosk and much more

Picture; St Mary’s Road with water trough, date unknown supplied by Adrian Parfitt, water trough, Bexley Road, 2015 from the collection of Jean Gammons and detail of St Mary’s Road 1953 historical map extract courtesy of Southwark Council at Historical map extract courtesy of Southwark Council at http://maps.southwark.gov.uk/connect/southwark.jsp?mapcfg=Historical_Selection&style=historical&banner=historical.
 with mapping provided by Landmark Information Group



Another day in Warrington ................. nu 2 passing the pub on Buttermarket Street in 2016

Yesterday we were promised what would be the best day for catching the sun.

And that was pretty much the case although there were great chucks of the day when the clouds did their best to both hide the sun and threaten rain.

But there was enough sun, the day was warm and the result was more pictures of Warrington a place I have only been to once before.

And as you do I was drawn into the shopping centre and ended up outside the Lower Angel on Buttermarket Street, which of course begs the question ... was there and is there an Upper Water Angel public house?

I shall go looking but in the meantime three is this, "a step back in time in the traffic-free area of Warrington town centre's heart with a traditional vault and lounge layout and rear beer garden. 

Memorabilia from the former Walker's brewery and stained glass windows can be seen. 

There are plans to relaunch the mothballed brewery behind the pub in future. The six changing beers are mainly from independent breweries. 

The Dark Mild is invariably from Dunham Massey but does occasionally change. Real cider is available spring through to summer whilst up to 70 malt whiskies are offered."*

*WHAT?UB, https://whatpub.com/pubs/CNC/390/hop-pole-warrington

Location; Warrington

Picture;the Lower Water Angel, 2016, from the collection of Andrew Simpson