Showing posts with label Frances Jones. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Frances Jones. Show all posts

Wednesday, 7 January 2026

Looking for the Blackheath Hospital ........... and finding it

Now I thought I had found Blackheath Hospital, but alas it is not so.

Nurses, Starting, Green, Leadbetter & Lines, May 1931
For while there is a very impressive private hospital with that name at 40-42 Lee Terrace it is not the one, I am looking for.

It was only opened in 1984, having had a varied history including as a private residency, a school, and old people’s home and even during the Second World War as a fire station.*

And so it cannot be the one where a young Jean Lines trained in 1931.

I must admit I doubted that it would be that easy to find, more so because many of the ways of locating the place are denied to me.

So while I have maps and street directories of Blackheath they do not stretch to the 1930s.

All I have so far is an entry in the 1932 electoral register for Jean Lines who was living at 32 St John’s Park, along with five other women.

This is all the more frustrating given that I have quite a few pictures of Ms. Lines and other members of the family, which come from the family collection of Frances Jones.**

Jean Lines left of centre
Like many such collections they are a mix of professional photographs and snaps.

And of these snaps there are three of Jean Lines and a caption which links her to a hospital in Blackheath where she was training to be a nurse.

Of course, if I were dealing with Greater Manchester I would be confident that I could track it and her down, but alas Blackheath is a long way from where I live.

And my hospital may not even have been called Blackheath Hospital, but it is or was out there in 1931.

That said there will be someone who knows, and can point me in the right direction, which will add to what I know of this young woman.

Jean Lines  (training at Blackheath)

We shall see.

And within minutes of posting the story and the quest to find Jean's hospital, Frances came up with a link to the place I having looking for.  

It comes from that very interesting site, Lost Hospitals of London, which I have used in  the past but had forgotten about, leaving me just to to thank Frances and post the link.

I could of course just lift the information , but that's not how I work.

Location; Blackheath

Pictures; from the family collection of Frances Jones

*Paradise  Tree Care, https://treesurgeonsblackheath.co.uk/blackheath-se3-places-of-interest-hospital-pubs-bars-and-the-royal-standard/

**Stories behind the pictures ………https://chorltonhistory.blogspot.com/2022/06/stories-behind-pictures.html

***Blackheath & Charlton Hospital, Shooters Hill, Blackheath, SE3, Lost Hospitals of London, https://ezitis.myzen.co.uk/blackheathandcharlton.html?fbclid=IwAR02-vedWbKnRmGT0daOLWtxunBcvFXsGHmlvZVtut_XLHJ1PPFnxMu9RtM

Friday, 1 July 2022

The photographs …… the family ….. and some of their stories ……..

Now anyone who has tracked their family history will know that mix of curiosity, and pleasure at uncovering long lost relatives.

The "Lines" girls, date unknown
In my case it is less how far I can go back into the past and more the stories which can be written about those that went before me.

And the real fun comes in placing them in the context of where they lived and how their stories fit into the national picture.

So, a big chunk of my ancestors were agricultural labourers and with the coming of the Industrial Revolution worked in the new textile mills, or migrated south from the east Highlands, eventually crossing the border at the start of the last century and by degree travelling ever further south before finally ending up in London in the 1930s.

Susan and Jean Lines, date unknown
Nor does that quest “to find out” stop with our family, which brings me to an interesting collection of family pictures sent to me by Frances who wrote “they were my aunt's family, but she was my aunt by marriage, so I don't know any of the people in the photos”.

And as you do, I started with the images which I was most drawn to, including two studio portraits, an elderly woman astride a motorbike, along with a mother and baby outside a tent in Blackpool and a young Jean Lines training to be a nurse in Blackheath in 1931.

Susan Eleanor Lines, date unknown

As ever the choice was random, the picture of the elderly woman on the motorbike from the 1920s looked intriguing, while Jean Lines was living and working in a part of south east London I know well because I grew up close by.

Such are the reasons why we get drawn in and once drawn in the exercise to find out more becomes as fascinating as any piece of personal family research.

Major Lines, circa 1914
All of which took me to Major Edward Ellis Lines, his wife, Susan and his daughters.  

All of them feature in the collection but at first the connection seemed tenuous so while some of the photographs carried first names, not all had a surname, and most were undated.

But the key was Major Lines, who was born in 1859 in Dorset and was in the Royal Army Medical Corps, and with him came a series of census returns which offered up the names of his daughters, who were Eleanor, Leonora, Sadie, Phyllis and Marjorie.

The returns also provided a backdrop to his military career which showed that the family had moved around the country and beyond.  

So, sometime around 1902 they were in Hampshire, while between 1905 and 1907 they were in Malta and later still in Darlington, all of which are vouchsafe by the birthplaces of his daughters.

And this transitory life might explain why in 1901 Major Lines was in Weston Super Mare while his wife was on the Isle of Wight and back in 1891 his daughter and two sons from his first marriage were living with their grandparents.

Edward Ellis Lines, date unknown

There is much more to learn about Major Lines, but one thing stands out which is that he rose through the ranks.

Sadie and Leo Lines, date unknown
In 1880 when he married his first wife Cecilia in Somerset he described himself as a “soldier”  living in St John’s Wood in London.

By 1883 at the baptism of their daughter Mabel he had risen to “Staff Sergeant” with the Army Hospital Corps, and in the fulness of time I guess we will track his later promotions.

And in the same way uncover more about his first wife, and their children one of whom served in the Royal Navy.

But for now, it is enough to have found a framework and context for the family photographs and identify the woman on the motorbike as his second wife Susan who may well have been in her 50s when the picture was taken.

Edward Ellis Lines and daughter, date unknown

Of course I may have got bits wrong, as happens with any family research, but I am happy with where we have travelled so far.

Location; all over

Pictures; from the family collection of Frances Jones

Wednesday, 29 June 2022

Stories behind the pictures ………

Now I never tire of looking at other people’s family pictures.

Mrs Wyatt, Kathleen and Mrs. Lines, date unknown
More so when they stretch back to the beginning of the last century and include just enough clues to set me off looking for the story behind the photograph.

And so, I was very pleased when Frances offered to share some from her family album., which “were of my aunt's family, but she was my aunt by marriage, so I don't know any of the people in the photos”.

All of which presents the challenge and that wish to bring them back out of the shadows.

At which point I do have to say that “bringing them back out of the shadows” seems a tad pretentious and raises the question of whether they want to be brought out and can be argued is an unwarranted intrusion.

Unknown woman, undated

But then that has never stopped me.

So, to the pictures of which there are many.

Susan Line, & Jean, Torquay, date unknown
Some are very formal, taken by a professional photographer and made into picture postcards, while others are the classic snap, taken in the moment and then forgotten.

Luckily most of the collection comes with names, locations and even dates, all of which will make it easier to track them back across time.

Added to which some names are repeated and even form part of a wider group of images which show one individual as a child and later training as a nurse in Blackheath.

Nurses, Starting, Green, Leadbetter, & Lines, May 1931, Blackheath

What I particularly like are the unusual shots ranging from an elderly woman on a motorbike in Torquay to a mother and child outside a tent, a scene from the Lido at Lugano and an unnamed, and undated woman in formal pose.

The Lido, Lugarno, unknown date
But what I particularly like is the snap of Mis Wyatt, Kathleen and Mrs Lewis, somewhere in I guess the 1920s and 1930s.

It is the mix of a casual pose, the smile of the woman in middle and those fashionable clothes.

Some of the individuals will be easier to find than others, and the most promising seems to be Jean Lines who appears in several images and was training to be a nurse in Blackheath in southeast London in 1931.

Equally promising might be the picture of Geoffrey H. E. Lines, aged just 6 months “at Blackpool, 1917, outside Father’s tent”.  

It should be possible to find him in the record but raises tantalizing questions about the woman.  Was she, his mother, and why were they staying in the tent?

Geoffrey H. E. Lines, aged just 6 months at Blackpool, 1917

We shall see.

Location; all over

Pictures; early 20th century, from the collection of Frances Jones