Showing posts with label Furness Vale. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Furness Vale. Show all posts

Friday, 26 September 2025

Hay making in Chorlton ............ or almost


Now here is an image which could have been so easily taken in Chorlton.


Hay Making in Furness Vale, date unknown
The picture is labelled on the reverse "Haymaking, Furness Vale" but the date and location are not recorded although the buildings in the background look familiar.

Now it is a scene which could so easily have been taken here in Chorlton,.

And given that 56% of the land here was pasture and meadowland and that some of the 40% of arable land was used for growing barley I rather think these men and boys could have so equally stepped off one of our own fields.

Man with pipe and rake
What I like about this picture is the way that George Tomlinson has isolated sections of the image  and  explains the sorts of detail most of us would pass over.

So  "the man in the centre carries a large wooden handled rake. Behind him can be seen the ownership plate on the cart. The name is Charles Saxby of Disley.  Saxby was owner of Furness Vale Printworks".

All of which puts the picture into a context and demonstrates the power of local knowledge to unlock a photograph

But as I often say it is not for me to lift another’s research so to see all of George’s comments you will have to visit the site at http://furnesshistory.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/haymaking.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed:+FurnessValeLocalHistorySociety+(FURNESS+VALE+LOCAL+HISTORY+SOCIETY)

And for those in Chorlton who wondered where we are in Furness Vale, David Easton who kindly gave me permission to use the image, says, "The location is probably Lodge Farm in Furness Vale which was owned at the time by Mr. Saxby".

Location; Furnes Vale

Picture; courtesy of the Furness Vale Local History Society


Sunday, 6 October 2024

With farmer Higginbotham on the meadows collecting in the hay around 1890




This remains one of my favourite pictures of that time when we were still a rural community.

We are on the meadows in a field farmed by the Higginbotham family sometime around 1890.

Now I can be fairly confident of that because the picture comes from the Higginbotham collection and the boy on the horse might well be the last of the family to have farmed this land and live in the farmhouse on the green.

Much of their land was concentrated out to the west of the village hard by the river and was meadowland and we are out there with them as the cut grass is being collected.

After it was cut, stacked and left to dry it was loaded onto the wagon with rakes and pitchforks which required a large amount of skill and hard work.

Each person had a specific job.  Some were employed to lift the hay up to the men on the wagons.

On top of the wagons these men would take the hay and build it into a square load.

To get some sense of the sheer hard work and skill that was involved, we only have look at the photograph of hay making around 1890.

To lift the hay from the ground to the height of the stacked wagon did indeed require strength and stamina.

And great care had to be taken in building the hay load. There was no rail on the wagon and if the load were not evenly distributed the hay might fall off once the horses began to pull the load.

Even the best stacked hay load might have an accident.

And just such an accident happened to the farmer John Joseph Briggs during the “harvest home”  which was the old custom where the last wagon loaded with the harvest would be decorated and escorted back accompanied by wives workers and children some of whom sat on top.*

But when the load overturned he abandoned the practice.

Hay making was an intensive period and there was often extra work for the casual labourers and it also attracted village children.  Some may have come to watch while others will have tarried after bring food from home for their fathers.

They are there in many pictures of hay making and harvest time and this day on the meadows is no exception.  They are sitting close to the wagon amongst the hay.

But I rather think given the date and the clothes of some of the children in the picture old Higginbotham has caught the interest of a group of the newcomers whose parents had been settling down in the properties around Martledge and the station in the last decades of the 19th century.

Unlike our village children the daily routines of the agricultural world was both different and exciting.

And so being allowed to hold that broad wooden rake and stand beside the hay maker was something to talk about that evening.

But despite the idyllic scene this was hard work and wages reflected that fact.

In the middle years of that century wages at harvest time ranged from 15s a week to 18s, 21s and even 24s, which compared well with task work which might pay between 14s and 21s and special work like drainage bringing in 5s for men and 7s 6d for boys.

So there we have it, hay making on the meadows sometime in the 19th century.




Picture; collecting hay from the Higginbotham collection

* Briggs, John Joseph, Melbourne 1820-1875, edited by Philip Heath Melbourne Historical Society 2005.  John Joseph Briggs farmed Elms Farm just south of Derby and kept a diary

Monday, 3 September 2018

A Tour of The Torrs ....... tomorrow ...... one not to miss

Now I am always impressed by Furness Vale History Society and have long had a soft spot for them.

Their programme of talks is varied and their blog posts always interesting,

So here is their September event with a link to that blog spot.



And on a personal note, they were one of the first societies to offer me a spot way back in 2012 to talk about Chorlton-cum-Hardy in the early 19th century.

So try and get along to A Tour of The Torrs, with geologist, Dr Pete Webb who describes a visit to this spectacular New Mills feature.

Leaving me just an announcement from the group that, “the large (Rotational Mouldings) car park is now open each evening from 7pm.  Access is alongside the Soldier Dick public house.  The small car park alongside the Community Centre will also soon be available for visitor's use”.

*Furness Vale History Society, http://furnesshistory.blogspot.com/

Tuesday, 1 May 2018

Tonight in Furness Vale ....... Canals and things ...... the talk

Now I am a great admirer of Furnes Vale Local History Society after they were brave enough to invite me along to talk about Chorlton-cum-Hardy.



That was six years ago and was I think my second speaking engagement.

I would like to get up there more regularly but I don’t.

So instead I shall tell you about their next meeting and leave it at that.

Furnes Vale Local History Society, http://furnesshistory.blogspot.co.uk/

Saturday, 31 December 2016

Memories of Furness Vale by Mabel Townend. ....... one for the new year

The next meeting of Furness Vale History Society is on Tuesday 3rd January at 7.30pm. 

The meeting is at Furness Vale Community Centre, Yeardsley Lane.

Admission is £2 including refreshments. Mabel Townend, a former village schoolteacher, tells a fascinating story of life in Furness Vale over the past 80 years.

The poster features Rheuben Bennet the village yeast dealer and Mabel Townend's grandfather.

Rheuben sold yeast door to door in neighbouring villages and also ran a nursery business growing tomatoes and flowers.

Location; Furnes Vale

Picture; courtesy of Furnes Vale History Society

*Furness Vale Local History Society, http://furnesshistory.blogspot.co.uk/

Monday, 18 May 2015

Rose Queens, Furness Vale and a clue to a date

Now this I reckon will open up a debate.

We are at the Furness Vale Rose Queen event sometime before 1968, and the pictures and story are from the Furness Vale Local History Society.*

I always enjoy their newsletter and when I can I try to get up there for the meetings.

This month the edition contains a fascinating account of Ollerenshaw farm which is an ongoing research project** and that account of the Rose Queen Procession.***

And it was the pictures of the old lorries that drew me into the Rose Queen story.

These celebrations pop up all over the place and the regularly turn up here on the blog. ****

But today I want to concentrate on the Furness procession, because here is a wonderful bit of local history.

It starts with the lorries which for me take me back fifty years.

And then it is the names on the sides of the vehicles which bring back lost businesses and one at least is a clue to the date of the event.

But that I will leave you to find out by following the link and reading the story.

Of course in the interests of historical debate it would be fun to see how many people come in with a suggestion of a date for the event based on those lorries.

We shall see.

Pictures; courtesy of Furness vale Local History Society

*Furness vale Local History Society, http://furnesshistory.blogspot.co.uk/

**Ollerneshaw Farm, http://furnesshistory.blogspot.co.uk/2015/05/ollerenshaw-farm.html


***Furness Vale Rose Queen,
http://furnesshistory.blogspot.co.uk/2015/05/furness-vale-rose-queen.html

****The Rose Queen, http://chorltonhistory.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/The%20Rose%20Queen



Sunday, 15 February 2015

One cottage in Furness Vale ............ a story from David Easton

The story of the early years of Methodism is much the same whether it is about Chorlton, Didsbury or here in this case in Furness Vale from David Easton who is a memberof the successful Furness Vale History Society.*

John Wesley was a frequent visitor to towns such as New Mills, Chinley and Chapel-en-le-Frith. His journal records that between 1745 and 1788 he preached on a number of occasions, often having travelled over from Macclesfield.

It is known that Wesley preached a sermon at Waterside, the little hamlet by the River Goyt just across the water from Furness Vale. There is a stile by Waterside cottage where he is said to have stood to address his congregation.

Methodism was first established in Furness Vale in 1812 and without a chapel or mission, it is probable that worshippers met in peoples’ homes.

The row of three cottages at 30 to 34 Yeardsley Lane was built in 1822 and one was rented to the Methodists for £5 per annum to become the village's first mission hall.

In addition to worship, it provided a Sunday School, teaching not only scripture but also the "three R's."

On weekday evenings, adult literacy classes were held.

As the village population and attendance grew, there came a need for a purpose built chapel and this opened in 1840.

The centenary of Furness Vale Methodists was celebrated in 1912 and on that occasion, a commemorative cup was produced.

One of these has just been donated to the History Society by Beth Kucera, an antique dealer from Wisconsin, USA who came across it when on a buying trip some years ago.

The Methodists did not reach their bicentenary.

A reduced membership could not afford essential alterations to the chapel and it closed about ten years ago.

The building was converted to apartments which have never been popular.

The cottage on Yeardsley Lane became in 1840, a private house.

The row eventually came to be owned by Miss Webb who is seen at the door of number 32 and whose guests have arrived by car. Number 34, the original mission is now my home, the smallest dwelling in the village.

Furness Vale History Society meets regularly, and their newsletter can be obtained from the link below.

© David Easton

Pictures; from the collection of Furness Vale History Society

*FURNESS VALE LOCAL HISTORY SOCIETY, http://furnesshistory.blogspot.co.uk/

Wednesday, 21 January 2015

Discovering something new about Victorian Churches at Furness Vale on February 3rd

Now I was pleased when Neil told me he had made the long journey by bike to Furness Vale to hear one of the talks put on by the history society and even more that he enjoyed the presentation along with the nearby restaurant I suggested he tried.

So I hope that he will be suitably inspired to catch the next one which will be on Victorian Church Buildings in the North West on February 3rd.

But if like me that will not be possible I recommend their newsletter.*

*Furness Vale Local History Society, http://furnesshistory.blogspot.co.uk/

Monday, 5 January 2015

One to do ............ The Peak Forest Canal talk tomorrow at Furnes Vale

Now canals have always had a special fascination for me and I reckon the talk at Furness Vale History society on the Peak Forest Canal System promises to be a good one.

The illustrated talk will be at Furness Vale Community Centre, Yeardsley Lane, on Tuesday January 6 at 7.30.

Non members are always welcome and admission is £1.50 including refreshments.

*Furness Vale History Society, http://furnesshistory.blogspot.co.uk/

Monday, 1 December 2014

Leaving Stockport because of Mr Hitler

Now I rather wish I could get to the talk on the Evacuated Schools in Wartime Stockport tomorrow at Furness Vale by Gillian Mawson.

It promises to be an interesting one.

Ms Mawson has written extensively about the impact of the Second World War on the North West  and as well as Guernesy.

As usual, we meet at Furness Vale Community Centre, Yeardsley Lane at 7.30pm. Admission is £1. 50 including refreshments.**

The Community centre is just a short walk from the railway station and past some interesting pubs.  So if like me you manage to get to Furness vale early there are always places to pass the time till 7.30.








* Gillian Mawson, http://guernseyevacuees.wordpress.com/about/ 

**Furness Vale Local History Society, http://furnesshistory.blogspot.co.uk/

Tuesday, 18 November 2014

One for the diary ........ the Evacuated Schools in Wartime Stockport December 2 Furness Vale

Now I rather wish I could get to the talk on the Evacuated Schools in Wartime Stockport tomorrow at Furness Vale by Gillian Mawson.

It promises to be an interesting one.

Ms Mawson has written extensively about the impact of the Second World War on the North West  and as well as Guernesy.

As usual, we meet at Furness Vale Community Centre, Yeardsley Lane at 7.30pm. Admission is £1. 50 including refreshments.**

The Community centre is just a short walk from the railway station and past some interesting pubs.

So if like me you manage to get to Furness Vale early there are always places to pass the time till 7.30.

And the trains back to city run late.


* Gillian Mawson, http://guernseyevacuees.wordpress.com/about/ 


**Furness Vale Local History Society, http://furnesshistory.blogspot.co.uk/



Tuesday, 7 October 2014

Tonight at Furness Vale stories of Manchester’s printing history

Geoff Wild "will talk about 'My life in print', ........... a story of the newspaper business in Manchester including the history of publishing and printing in the City together with anecdotes about working in the industry.*




Furness Vale Local History Society. Furness Vale Community Centre 7.30pm. Admission £1.50"

*Furness Vale Local History Society, http://furnesshistory.blogspot.co.uk/

Saturday, 4 October 2014

A story of the newspaper business in Manchester ...... at Furness Vale Local History Society, October 7

Now I never tire of mentioning Furness Vale Local History Society.*

They meet very close to the station and the trip out from Piccadilly by train is a pleasant one.  Added to that there are some interesting pubs between the where you get off and the community centre.

So if I can I shall try and get along to the next meeting, on Monday October 7th when Geoff Wild "will talk about 'My life in print', ........... a story of the newspaper business in Manchester including the history of publishing and printing in the City together with anecdotes about working in the industry. Furness Vale Local History SocietyFurness Vale Community Centre 7.30pm. Admission £1.50"

*Furness Vale Local History Society, http://furnesshistory.blogspot.co.uk/

Saturday, 23 August 2014

The hand that signed the paper ........ stories of a Regicide, visions of the future and Marple Hall

Every so often people on social networks ask that question “if you could meet anyone in history who would it be?”

Now I try to avoid the question because there are just so many individuals ranging from the great and good, the not so good and of course members of my own family.

But I have to confess that I am intrigued by John Bradshaw the English judge who as President of the High Court of Justice presided over the trial of King Charles and whose signature topped the death warrant.

The English Civil War has always fascinated me not least because in the middle of the war representatives of the army met and debated the future of England.*

Reading the discussions there is something very modern about the position of Colonel Rainsborough who argued that “... the poorest he that is in England hath a life to live, as the greatest he; and therefore truly, Sir, I think it's clear, that every man that is to live under a government ought first by his own consent to put himself under that government; and I do think that the poorest man in England is not bound in a strict sense to that government that he hath not had a voice to put himself under...”

And this in turn reminded me of the Forces Parliaments which took place in the British Army in India and Egypt during the Second World War.  The Cairo Forces Parliament met in February 1944 and voted for the nationalization of the banks, land, mines and transport.

In their way it replicated those debates three hundred years earlier where the men who were fighting debated the future they wanted.

But unlike the Forces Parliament which saw much of what they voted for come to reality after the election of the Labour Government in 1945 the expectations of many of the 17th century progressives, and visionaries came to nought in the face of Royal repression.

And this was seen not only in the way that some of those who fought for Parliament were treated but extended to the exhumation of the bodies of leading members of the Commonwealth who had died before 1660, including John Bradshaw whose bits were put on public display.

Now this much I knew but until recently had never come across the home of John Bradshaw which was in Marple, and which we came across at the end of a long walk on a hot spring day.

That said if you want to know more then you can either visit the excellent web site Marple Hall,** or take a trip out to Furness Vale and join the Furness Vale Historical Society listen to Neil Mullineux present a virtual history of the Hall on Tuesday September 2nd at 7.30 in the Community Centre Yeardsley Lane.***

Picture; advertising poster

*The Putney Debates, http://chorltonhistory.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/The%20Putney%20Debates

**Marple Hall, http://www.marple-uk.com/Hall.htm

***Furness Vale Local History Society, http://furnesshistory.blogspot.co.uk/

Friday, 2 May 2014

One for the diary, the History of the Coop, the talk at Furness Vale on May 6

Now there was a time when most places had their own Co-op shop and until the mergers of the middle and late 20th centuries there were plenty of different societies, some larger than other others but all committed to the concept of co-operation.

In Chorlton there was one on Beech Road, two at various times near to the Four Banks and up by Hardy Lane another.

And in Furness Vale until it was merged with Whaley Bridge Co-op, they had their own society in with just one shop.

The original store which closed in the 1970's is now the Imperial Palace Chinese Restaurant.

So given that Furness could offer its own little bit of cooperation, the local history society is telling the story of the movement with guest speaker Gillian Lonergan of the National Co-operative Archives.

I freely admit that Furness Vale is tad far from Chorlton, but that has not stopped me from heading out there.  There is after all a good train connection and the Community Centre is not far from the station. 

And if like me you have a tendency to misread the timetable and arrive early there is a choice of pubs and that Chinese Restaurant which just happens to be beside the Community Centre and was once he Co-op.

Furness Vale Local History Society, http://furnesshistory.blogspot.co.uk/

Saturday, 2 November 2013

A picture which finally gives up its story

In Gateshead in the late 1920s
Now a few weeks ago I was pondering on my failure to unlock the story of an old photograph.*

We all have them in the family collection of pictures.

They are those with no name, or date or any clue as to where they were taken or even what connection they have to the family.

Now this is almost one of those, and I say that because I am pretty sure it will be where my father worked in the 1920s but that is about it.

So I was very pleased when my friend David from Furness Vale came up with these two pictures and the accompanying text.

A Leyland Lion, 1927
"This is a Leyland Lion of 1927, and another from 1929. 

Both of these buses are at the Museum of Transport.**

I'm not an expert on buses but vintage transport does have an appeal. 

The bus in your picture does look like a Leyland but without a clearer view of the radiator I can't be sure. 

It is likely to be mid 1920's at the earliest. 

Leyland supplied a lot of buses with their own bodies but as has always been the case, many other coachbuilders also built bus bodies. 

I can't see any buses on the internet with that stylish curved panel so it may have been built by a small coach works. 

These buses were beautifully built and finished and often lasted a long time so dating the photo is difficult. I have had a good look on the internet and drawn a blank. I will hazard a guess though. 

Leyland Lion 1929
Motor garages quite often ran a local bus service. As this bus is posed outside a garage it could be that this is one such operator.

Ribble operated mostly red double deckers out of Lower Mosley Street Bus Station which they shared with North Western. Most routes ran to north into the Lancashire towns.”

Now despite David’s modesty I think he has pretty much solved my question.

Pictures; courtesy of David, Furness Local History Society.

*The picture which stubbornly refuses to give up its story, Newcastle-upon-Tyne in the 1920s
http://chorltonhistory.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/the-picture-which-stubbornly-refuses-to.html

**Museum of Transport, Greater Manchester, http://www.gmts.co.uk/




Saturday, 26 October 2013

Down in Furness Vale with a colliery and a pantomime

Time to mention Furness Vale Local History Society again.*

I collect history societies and while I can’t always get to their meetings I relish reading what they are doing, what is currently being researched and just a little bit about their history.

Like all societies they have a programme of events and a blog which features stories from the area.

And I was caught by this one on "Furness Clough Colliery, the Brickworks and the canal wharf which were all linked by a narrow gauge tramway.  There is no record of the date of construction although it was certainly in existence in 1810."**

Now if you want to know more you’d better follow the link at the bottom and in the meantime if you live in the area why not go to their January Meeting on Victorian Pantomime in Manchester.



*Furness Vale Local History Society http://furnesshistory.blogspot.co.uk/

****http://furnesshistory.blogspot.co.uk/2013/03/r-e-knowles-siding.html



Monday, 11 March 2013

Something to do on March 15th and 16th


Something to do on March 15th and 16th

If you are tired of the city or just fancy a trip out there is always local history in Derbyshire.