Thursday, 16 April 2015

So it’s goodbye to the Waggon and Horses in Sale ..... closed for a decade and soon to be a hole in the ground

The Waggon & Horses 2014
It was just under a year ago that Andy Robertson wandered in to Sale and snapped the Waggon and Horse.*

It had closed sometime around 2003 and has stood empty ever since.

Now I have yet to track the pub back to its beginning, but it was there in 1875 and just over a hundred years later made a stir by replacing the electric pumps with the traditional hand pumps and barrel and sold real ale.

Both Andy and I pondered on its future.  Its last landlord had confirmed it had been sold to a developer but that was it.

The Waggon & Horses, 2015
Andy passed it yesterday and it was clear something was happening, and not just to the old pub for along the road the same tell tale scaffolding and netting obscured the neighbouring building.

And a search of the Trafford Planning applications revealed that in February of this year there had been an application for the “Demolition of the Waggon and Horses Public House together with Nos. 137-145 Cross Street and all light industrial buildings to the rear.”*

And next door today
Now as yet there is no indication of what will replace the buildings but I guess when Andy next passes there will just be a hole in the ground.

That said not long after I posted the story, someone dug out a planning application from five years ago which applied for the demolition of the existing buildings to replaced by a mix of retail, commercial and residential properties.***

The application was approved in November 2010.


And next door a year ago
So I guess Andy will not have to look at a hole in the ground for long.  On the other hand given that he passes the spot regularly I rather think we may have a new photographic project about to begin as Andy chronicles the development of the site.




Pictures; The Waggon and Horses and neighbouring buildings in 2014 and 2015 from the collection of Andy Robertson



* Thinking about the fate of the Waggon and Horses in Sale a decade and a bit since it stopped serving, http://chorltonhistory.blogspot.co.uk/2014/05/thinking-about-fate-of-waggon-and.html

**84951/DEM/15, http://publicaccess.trafford.gov.uk/online-applications/simpleSearchResults.do?action=firstPage

**6054/O/2010, http://publicaccess.trafford.gov.uk/online-applications/caseDetails.do?caseType=Application&keyVal=ZZZW38QLTA628


10 comments:

  1. There is outline planning for this
    http://publicaccess.trafford.gov.uk/online-applications/caseDetails.do?caseType=Application&keyVal=ZZZW38QLTA628

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  2. Good pub in it's day and has been missed over the years but you have to be honest here, it's a right state and doesn't look good on the entrance to the great town of Sale. Lets get it pulled down and tidy up the place. Goodbye W&H, you will be missed :-(

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  3. Good pub in it's day and has been missed over the years but you have to be honest here, it's a right state and doesn't look good on the entrance to the great town of Sale. Lets get it pulled down and tidy up the place. Goodbye W&H, you will be missed :-(

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  4. Thanks Stephen and I now understand that there will be a mixed development, see the other comment

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  5. I used to gig in there back in the late 80's early 90's ! Good memories!! Great pub back then !!

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  6. Perhaps one farewell gig beside the building site?

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  7. My local in the late 80's great memories great pub

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  8. great pub in its day,walked passed it today and sadly it's a pile of rubble.How sad am I 'picked a brick up to keep as a momento

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  9. good pub in it's day ,was my local in the 60's/70's.Walked passed it today and it is now a pile of rubble .Took a brick as a momento!

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