Now I thought this was Woolwich but with the help of Gary and Brian I now know that it is Manchester.
It was posted today across Well Hall and Eltham in the series on the lost pictures of Eltham and Woolwich.
But within minutes Garry Luttman and Brian McDonnell pointed out my mistake. Gary wrote, “sorry to be pedantic Andrew, but this image could not have been in Powis Street as the police officers are not Met Police.
The helmet design gives it away and Met sergeants did not carry that type of stick. Looks more like the rig worn by officers in Liverpool”.
And Brian commented, "interestingly enough neither of those 'police officers' are wearing Met helmets. The helmets are of the wrong design”. Adding, “the helmet is the Cap Comb design.
The Met use the Rose design. Also the Met have never had a red enamel insert in the helmet plate (badge on the front). GMP helmet plates did. May give you some further pointers as to where it is...”
And of course on closer inspection it is Manchester and the Arndale Centre, which given the alterations to the shopping centre makes this a lost picture of Manchester.
So all is well, leaving me to ponder on the lesson that you should always catalogue your pictures.
To be fair this one has sat in our cellar for four decades along with ones of Eltham and and others of Manchester.
They were colour slides taken in the 1970s which have been transferred electronically and I guess a few got from the Manchester boxes into the Eltham and Woolwich ones.
The quality of the original lighting and the sharpness is sometimes iffy, but they are a record of a lost Eltham and Woolwich. Well not in this case. But it is a favourite of mine just because it is so ordinary.
The couple are moving with some speed, and perhaps with an eye on the "clear out."
And while they make their determined way towards the "End of Season CLEAROUT" the two police officers are deep in conversation.
So thank you Gary and Brian for restoring a lost Manchester picture ..... long may they continue to comment.
And just before I deleted the old story my friend Tricia wrote, "See this is what happens when you have lived your life in several different places" and Don commented it "Looks like Maggie Thatcher is out canvassing where ever it is, unperturbed by the sergeant looking on with the snooker cue.".
Location; Manchester
Picture; Manchester, circa 1979, from the collection of Andrew Simpson
But within minutes Garry Luttman and Brian McDonnell pointed out my mistake. Gary wrote, “sorry to be pedantic Andrew, but this image could not have been in Powis Street as the police officers are not Met Police.
The helmet design gives it away and Met sergeants did not carry that type of stick. Looks more like the rig worn by officers in Liverpool”.
And Brian commented, "interestingly enough neither of those 'police officers' are wearing Met helmets. The helmets are of the wrong design”. Adding, “the helmet is the Cap Comb design.
The Met use the Rose design. Also the Met have never had a red enamel insert in the helmet plate (badge on the front). GMP helmet plates did. May give you some further pointers as to where it is...”
So all is well, leaving me to ponder on the lesson that you should always catalogue your pictures.
To be fair this one has sat in our cellar for four decades along with ones of Eltham and and others of Manchester.
They were colour slides taken in the 1970s which have been transferred electronically and I guess a few got from the Manchester boxes into the Eltham and Woolwich ones.
The quality of the original lighting and the sharpness is sometimes iffy, but they are a record of a lost Eltham and Woolwich. Well not in this case. But it is a favourite of mine just because it is so ordinary.
And while they make their determined way towards the "End of Season CLEAROUT" the two police officers are deep in conversation.
So thank you Gary and Brian for restoring a lost Manchester picture ..... long may they continue to comment.
And just before I deleted the old story my friend Tricia wrote, "See this is what happens when you have lived your life in several different places" and Don commented it "Looks like Maggie Thatcher is out canvassing where ever it is, unperturbed by the sergeant looking on with the snooker cue.".
Location; Manchester
Picture; Manchester, circa 1979, from the collection of Andrew Simpson
I suspect the Sergeant is meeting one of his section of patrolling officers - once a common sight when Police actually patrolled on foot and supervisors did too!
ReplyDeleteWow, just looked closer and recognised the curvy outline of the original M&S overhang reflected in the window - and you can see the 'M' of Marks!
ReplyDeleteTruly a lost picture!
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