Now, I have to say that this row of terraced houses is not what you expect to see off the High Street.
And I had to think for a few minutes just where Elm Terrace is, because I don’t remember the houses and I doubt few people today will either.
Elm Terrace is of course one of those narrow little streets off the High Street, opposite the Rising Sun.
As a kid I had no reason to go down there, and the last time I ventured down it was an unremarkable place with a Chinese restaurant and not much else, although there was a bit of a ghost sign which had been exposed after a sign board had been taken down.
It is on the side of the wall of number 23 which was once Four Paws Grooming Saloon, but has been empty for a few years.
Now as everyone knows I am attracted to ghost signs and this one intrigues me because all we have left picked out in giant red lettering is ASTEL, leaving me to wait for someone with a longer memory to tell me what it referred to.
So with that cleared up, I am back to the picture, which is dated around 1905.
I say 1905, but that was when the picture postcard was sent and so the actual date it was taken maybe earlier, but not much because, Margaret writes to her aunt “that I have put a cross by our house. Mrs Smith used to live by the lamp post - the house you see at the bottom is Mrs Masson”.
These were four roomed houses and there were 23 of them in the terrace.
Our own historian Mr Gregory writing in1909 said nothing about the properties and limited himself to a speculation on the origins of the name which he thought “in all probability is derived from two old elm trees which at one time stood at the end of the road remote from the High Street.”*
Now I don’t blame him for passing over a description of the houses, at the time they would have been familiar to everyone.
As it was nine years later they do not even warrant a reference in the 1918 street directory, which confined itself to listing just William Ryde & Son, farriers, and The Eltham Public Hall which was owned by R. Smith & Company.
The line of the roof of the hall is just visible at the end of the terrace. It dated from the 1870s and was the British School but with the opening of the school at Pope Street the building was “used for meetings, concerts and similar purposes”.
As for our houses, those “on left were demolished for the Arcade development in 1930 which was only half completed when the developer went bankrupt. The Elm Terrace Fitness Centred (opened in 1931 as an indoor market) covers the site of most of the cottages on the right except the last three, which are now used for commercial purposes”. ***
I have to say I do like the picture and more because we can identify pretty much everyone who lived here during the early 20th century using electoral registers and the census returns.
And here I must pay tribute to Tricia, who sent over the picture and did much of the research on Margaret Pocknall from which I know she was a dress maker, born in Eltham in 1877, and her family moved around Eltham and settled just round the corner in Southend Road in Elm Villas.
But I will close with one simple observation and that even back then, a gable end invited the idle to chalk on the wall.
To which Matt K Minch went one better and posted this picture with the comment, "'Astel' I think is the remnants of the sign that said Hardcastles, this being what became of the 3 houses that survived there."
And that really is it, with thanks to Matt and Tricia who did all the research.
Location; Eltham
Picture; Elm Terrace, courtesy of Tricia Leslie, and Elm Terrace from the collection of Matt K Minch, date unknown
*Gregory, R.R.C. The Story of Royal Eltham, 1909, page 286
**ibid, Gregory, R.R.C., page 287
***Kennet, John, Eltham a Pictorial History, 1995 image 84
And I had to think for a few minutes just where Elm Terrace is, because I don’t remember the houses and I doubt few people today will either.
Elm Terrace is of course one of those narrow little streets off the High Street, opposite the Rising Sun.
As a kid I had no reason to go down there, and the last time I ventured down it was an unremarkable place with a Chinese restaurant and not much else, although there was a bit of a ghost sign which had been exposed after a sign board had been taken down.
It is on the side of the wall of number 23 which was once Four Paws Grooming Saloon, but has been empty for a few years.
Now as everyone knows I am attracted to ghost signs and this one intrigues me because all we have left picked out in giant red lettering is ASTEL, leaving me to wait for someone with a longer memory to tell me what it referred to.
So with that cleared up, I am back to the picture, which is dated around 1905.
I say 1905, but that was when the picture postcard was sent and so the actual date it was taken maybe earlier, but not much because, Margaret writes to her aunt “that I have put a cross by our house. Mrs Smith used to live by the lamp post - the house you see at the bottom is Mrs Masson”.
These were four roomed houses and there were 23 of them in the terrace.
Our own historian Mr Gregory writing in1909 said nothing about the properties and limited himself to a speculation on the origins of the name which he thought “in all probability is derived from two old elm trees which at one time stood at the end of the road remote from the High Street.”*
Now I don’t blame him for passing over a description of the houses, at the time they would have been familiar to everyone.
As it was nine years later they do not even warrant a reference in the 1918 street directory, which confined itself to listing just William Ryde & Son, farriers, and The Eltham Public Hall which was owned by R. Smith & Company.
The line of the roof of the hall is just visible at the end of the terrace. It dated from the 1870s and was the British School but with the opening of the school at Pope Street the building was “used for meetings, concerts and similar purposes”.
As for our houses, those “on left were demolished for the Arcade development in 1930 which was only half completed when the developer went bankrupt. The Elm Terrace Fitness Centred (opened in 1931 as an indoor market) covers the site of most of the cottages on the right except the last three, which are now used for commercial purposes”. ***
I have to say I do like the picture and more because we can identify pretty much everyone who lived here during the early 20th century using electoral registers and the census returns.
And here I must pay tribute to Tricia, who sent over the picture and did much of the research on Margaret Pocknall from which I know she was a dress maker, born in Eltham in 1877, and her family moved around Eltham and settled just round the corner in Southend Road in Elm Villas.
To which Matt K Minch went one better and posted this picture with the comment, "'Astel' I think is the remnants of the sign that said Hardcastles, this being what became of the 3 houses that survived there."
And that really is it, with thanks to Matt and Tricia who did all the research.
Location; Eltham
Picture; Elm Terrace, courtesy of Tricia Leslie, and Elm Terrace from the collection of Matt K Minch, date unknown
*Gregory, R.R.C. The Story of Royal Eltham, 1909, page 286
**ibid, Gregory, R.R.C., page 287
***Kennet, John, Eltham a Pictorial History, 1995 image 84
more fascinating history about my birthplace and hometown. i have not lived in eltham since 1974 but i still regard it as home.
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