Now Collier Street will mean many things to many people.
For those with a preference for music there is the Blueprint Studios directly opposite on Queen Street and for those who fancy a drink as well as their music there is the Eagle half way up Collier Street.
For others it will be the old baths on the corner with Rolla Street where I am told Mark Addy learnt to swim and which were opened by the same company that built the Leaf Street baths in Hulme and others across Manchester.
But sadly there is no one left who can tell me about learning to swim in its pool or even of a Saturday morning splash about with friends and family because the baths closed in 1880 after just 25 years of serving the community.
So you might be forgiven for thinking that Collier Street has abandoned its history, but not so.
My old friend Val got in touch to tell me that her grandparents lived in “Artisans Dwellings on Collier Street.
I have now looked up the place and an interesting tale emerges. They were built by the Artizans Company mainly they built in London.
The man who started it started out working as a scarecrow! The company went bust at one point because of embezzlement by the Company secretary and others.
His name very Dickensian was Swindlehurst.”
The company had begun in 1867 with high intentions of building for profit good quality low rise properties for working people. This put them slightly at odds with other companies also building for the poor who had gone down the model of multi story blocks of flats.
Most of their properties were as Val said in London, but they seem to have built here on Collier Street running up from Queen Street as far as Rolla Street.
I can’t exactly date them yet, but they are listed in the 1901 census and while they don’t appear in earlier lists there were people on the site in 1891.
Of course these may be earlier buildings which predate Artisans Buildings but there are a row of properties on the 1895 OS map which do seem to conform to what I think they would be like.
According to the 1901 census Artisan S Buildings consisted of 68 properties in which lived 276 people.*
Their occupations ranged across the sort of\semi and and unskilled jobs that this bit of Salford had to offer.
So far no picture of the buildings has come to light but Elaine Craven remembers “we left the Greengate area in 1959/1960 I don't know when the Artisans were pulled down, but they were a red brick and cream brick if I remember rightly, it had a big courtyard with a gate which was always locked, and I think they were three high, could be wrong, and they looked good.
All the kids played in the dwellings, but I don't remember how many kids lived there."***
And that just leaves me with the story behind nu 19 Collier Street in 1911 which was home to Mr and Mrs Stone who lived in the last house on the corner of Collier Street and Rolla Street, which was a pub and here in just five rooms lived the Stone’s and their nine children.**
Pictures; looking down Collier Street towards Queen Street, 2015 from the collection of Andy Robertson, and detail of the area in 1894 from the OS map of South Lancashire, 1894, courtesy of Digital Archives Association, http://digitalarchives.co.uk/
Painting; the Eagle Inn, Salford © 2011 Peter Topping
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*Enu 14 10- 19, Greengate Salford, Lancashire, 1901
**Enu 131, Salford, Lancashire, 1911
***Elaine Craven, 2016
Collier Street, 2015 |
For others it will be the old baths on the corner with Rolla Street where I am told Mark Addy learnt to swim and which were opened by the same company that built the Leaf Street baths in Hulme and others across Manchester.
But sadly there is no one left who can tell me about learning to swim in its pool or even of a Saturday morning splash about with friends and family because the baths closed in 1880 after just 25 years of serving the community.
The Eagle Inn, 2011 |
My old friend Val got in touch to tell me that her grandparents lived in “Artisans Dwellings on Collier Street.
I have now looked up the place and an interesting tale emerges. They were built by the Artizans Company mainly they built in London.
The man who started it started out working as a scarecrow! The company went bust at one point because of embezzlement by the Company secretary and others.
His name very Dickensian was Swindlehurst.”
The company had begun in 1867 with high intentions of building for profit good quality low rise properties for working people. This put them slightly at odds with other companies also building for the poor who had gone down the model of multi story blocks of flats.
I can’t exactly date them yet, but they are listed in the 1901 census and while they don’t appear in earlier lists there were people on the site in 1891.
Of course these may be earlier buildings which predate Artisans Buildings but there are a row of properties on the 1895 OS map which do seem to conform to what I think they would be like.
Collier Street, 1895 |
Their occupations ranged across the sort of\semi and and unskilled jobs that this bit of Salford had to offer.
So far no picture of the buildings has come to light but Elaine Craven remembers “we left the Greengate area in 1959/1960 I don't know when the Artisans were pulled down, but they were a red brick and cream brick if I remember rightly, it had a big courtyard with a gate which was always locked, and I think they were three high, could be wrong, and they looked good.
All the kids played in the dwellings, but I don't remember how many kids lived there."***
And that just leaves me with the story behind nu 19 Collier Street in 1911 which was home to Mr and Mrs Stone who lived in the last house on the corner of Collier Street and Rolla Street, which was a pub and here in just five rooms lived the Stone’s and their nine children.**
Pictures; looking down Collier Street towards Queen Street, 2015 from the collection of Andy Robertson, and detail of the area in 1894 from the OS map of South Lancashire, 1894, courtesy of Digital Archives Association, http://digitalarchives.co.uk/
Painting; the Eagle Inn, Salford © 2011 Peter Topping
Web: www.paintingsfrompictures.co.uk
Facebook: Paintings from Pictures https://www.facebook.com/paintingsfrompictures
*Enu 14 10- 19, Greengate Salford, Lancashire, 1901
**Enu 131, Salford, Lancashire, 1911
***Elaine Craven, 2016
The map of 1895 provided on this page in order to show the location of Salford's Artisans Buildings does not, in fact, show those buildings themselves. The buildings are, however, shown with great clarity on this same location in the 25-inch OS map of 1915 and their layout conforms exactly to that displayed in the "premediated" design plans and illustrations produced by the Artizan Company. They replaced all the old housing shown (in 1895) bounded by Rolla, Collier and Queen Streets. I can supply the relevant segment of the 1915 map if required.
ReplyDeleteAlas l didn't have access to the later map
DeleteI remember the dwellings very well, my older brother and I used to arrive at dwellings every morning for tea and toast from my aunt, before we went to school at St. Peter’s Rc school at the end of collier street, this would have been in the late 50s.
ReplyDeleteFacing the old baths was the canteen for the school meals, my grandma had a shop off Springfield lane, the road opposite collier st.
I’m trying to trace photos information of artisan dwellings where my dad grew up with his brothers all passed now sadly
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